Yes, that’s the point. Astrophotography Camera Settings. Some time-lapse controllers are able to connect to a camera through its USB port and then adjust the ISO and aperture as well, for ramped “holy grail” sunset-to-Milky Way sequences. Thanks! Just info for those who have never seen the apps. The Star Eater is gone. Not verbal arguments about how you think the sensor should behave. On the a7iii the differences between iso 400 and iso 640 pushed to be equal exposure, the 640 image is cleaner even with a shorter shutter time due to the dual gain system ‘kicking in’ at iso 640. Even if you could get a mirrorless camera to focus without a lens adapter to add the extra spacing, the image quality across the field might be compromised on many telescopes. • It lacks the “light-frame” buffer offered by full-frame Canons that allows shooting several frames in quick succession even with LENR turned on. Sensors with 4 micron pixels will have more noise than sensors with 6 micron pixels, no matter what size the sensor is. That’ll be a good test to make. Nevertheless, noise performance of the Sony a7III was still excellent, with both the Sony and Nikon handily outperforming the Canon 6D MkII, with its slightly smaller pixels, by about a stop in noise levels. An example is the Laowa 15mm f/2 I used for some of the testing. Video Capability To me your 2 versus 4 second exposure comparison also shows the tell-tale signs. Here are 7 astrophotography tips that have helped me capture hundreds of images of the night sky including stars, the Milky Way, Galaxies, Nebulae and more. See what that gets you. With LENR on you don’t have to do anything like taking separate shots with the lens cap on. But it is compatible with many external intervalometers and controllers. However, if the collection area is large, the incident “stream”/pixel is larger = less affected by variations. I’ve been looking for a comprehensive review and comparison of this camera for a while now. Hi Alan, I don’t want to detract from an otherwise fantastic review, so feel free not to post this. But it can take the Canon lenses you might already own. It is good, though not great, for long-exposure deep-sky imaging. I have a Sony A7Sii and I have not used it for a night photography or for deep sky, but I’m going to now, I’ve been away from the Hobby for a while and want to get back into the deep sky stuff. You believe it will be the case, but did you know? This might be an aid, or an annoyance. Don’t believe me? Only being f/4 is gonna limit you. I think any really ‘serious’ astrophotography users would be looking at a dedicated astro camera (CCD or CMOS), but know you can get some amazing results with a ‘normal’ quality camera such as those compared in this review. I would assume not, but not having an a7s (either Mark I or II) to test I can’t say for sure. Thanks again. Indeed, at slower ISOs and longer exposures, more stars are visible. Shooting the stars successfully requires the right camera settings along with the ability to manually focus on the stars. is this the opposite effect as stacking, which adds “other frsmes” with unwanted noise?). In testing the Sony a7III I ignored all the auto functions. Close. Full-frame and cropped-frame cameras with similar sized pixels have similar levels of noise. Hi Alan, Just wondering if you have done a test of the dark frame noise from the a7iii, or for any of your camera reviews. Which will have the lower noise? Like the Nikon D750, the Sony’s screen tilts vertically up and down, great for use when on a telescope, or on any tripod when aimed up at the sky. Bulb Timer or Long Exposures The higher noise of the Canon is visually obvious, but I’d say the Sony a7III and Nikon D750 are pretty equal visually for noise, despite the numbers. Basically it’s this — “Unfortunately, Sony users are out of luck, as none of the popular control programs (AstroPhotography Tool, ImagesPlus, MaxIm DL, Nebulosity, or PRISM) support Sony cameras.”. USB Power and join one of thousands of communities. Anyway, the a7III does look compelling. Why would that be? And note that 15s shutter speed is really 16s, so with that shutter speed the interval has to be 17s, and that a 30s exposure is really 32s so the interval has to be 33s — that’s true of all cameras. then, even in your case with ~3pixels wide stars, the comparison between 3.2s and 4s clearly shows a reduction of the stars “peak” brigthness, and notably less weak stars. In short — I found the Nikon Z6 superb for astrophotography. The correct exposure for the scene was 30 seconds at ISO 6400 and f/2. Two other functions are useful for Live View: In all, the Sony provides superb, if well-hidden, Live View options that make accurately framing and focusing a nightscape or time-lapse scene a joy. If not room on the camera if only an offer to place on one of the memory cards, please! It offers 4K (or more precisely UltraHD) video recording for videos of 3840 x 2160 pixels. Hence, all else being equal, a larger pixel will always result in less noise than a smaller one. NOTE: Click or Tap on most images to bring them up full-frame for inspection. With its good shadow details, you have to apply less shadow recovery in post-processing, which does keep noise down. A shorter SS for the wider the Aperture (more lens being used) but learning that even a 10mm lens is 17.86 seconds for Accurate and 35.60 for standard so bulb mode not really needed. If you measure the noise of individual pixels, larger pixels will have less noise simply because they are larger and can gather more light in any given amount of time. Jim Kasson’s testing (https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61074932) provides strongly conclusive evidence that it is still present, and your first comparison shot with the Canon 6d shows small stars in the Sony that are characteristically ragged and with a dominance of green colour – exactly the features explained in Mark Shelley’s reverse engineering of Sony’s latest spatial filtering algorithm. Thank you very much again! But that’s not removing stars. Older cropped-frame cameras (Canon 7D MKII) might have worse noise because they are older and use older firmware. We will see if that theory proves correct. I have the A7S, A7RM2 and A7M3 and have been playing with the A7S since 2014, 2016 A7RM2 and 2018 A7M3 with Astro MW and other things. Most tests focus on its superb auto exposure and auto focus capabilities that rival much more costly cameras, including Sony’s own a7rIII and a9. These settings are usually set with controls on the top or back of the camera, but depending on the model or manufacturer, may be set in menus. photos taken as I suggest. Shooting typical 400-frame time-lapses used about 40% of the battery capacity, similar to the other DSLRs. Intervalometer — NOW INCLUDED! You can take full advantage of wide-angle lenses, great for auroras. In January I embarked on a personal challenge to spend #100NightsUnderTheStars. I just got my Sony A7III with the 24-105mm G lens. I am very impressed! Best Astrophotography Settings for A7iii. (See my test at https://amazingsky.net/2017/08/09/testing-the-canon-6d-mark-ii-for-nightscapes/). The Sony still showed some discoloration artifacts and added noise when boosting images by +4 EV that the Nikon did not. But when I’m pushing details of the milky way and using shadows pushed to the equivalence of iso 12,800-25,6000 there’s more like 2 stops cleaner, at least this is what I found processing astrophotos between the 2 bodies. But no more! It showed all the same stars to the same limiting magnitude. In the meantime, Sony commands the full-frame mirrorless market. In Live View it is possible to make the image so bright you can actually see the Milky Way live on screen! Pixels, or photosites, do not “know” how large a sensor they belong to. In 2018, the affordable A7iii won “Camera of the Year” at the prestigious EISA awards. And what you want to use the camera for. ISO Invariance You just need to compare the pictures where there is a real lack of light(such as on a moonless night or ISO 102400 on test images from dpreview.com). But I invite you to test your own images with various programs to see for yourself, and to not depend on second-hand reports like mine! The Sony A7iii is a powerhouse but to unlock its full power you need to be able to get into the settings. However, all will need the right camera control cable, available from suppliers like B&H. ( Log Out / Yes, they are not as bad anymore as on earlier A7RII firmwares, which originally created all the fuzz. This is an annoying flaw, though applying “flat fields” or ad hoc local adjustments should eliminate this. Shot with A7III and 200-600mm lens. I wanted to comment on one thing, after reading the entire publication, I have the question of whether the sony a7iii has to be compared with the canon 6d mark ii or with the 5d mark iv (and the same with nikon, although I don’t know the name of the model higher). © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Tilting LCD Screen Turn on LENR and it is possible to shoot three (with the 6D MkII) or four (with the 6D) Raw images in quick succession even with LENR turned on. Also, when boosting the exposure a lot in processing, the images taken with LENR on showed more shot and read noise than non-LENR frames. Sony A7 III, A7R, A9 III JPG Settings There are two types of OOC JPEG settings to look at when it comes to JPG Quality on the A7 III and A9 series. I.E. The firmware, pixel size and pixel characteristics are also all the same. In the menu options that appear you can now scroll to one called Bright Monitoring. In order to see the real situation with the noise you need to compare pictures with a large lack of lighting. See https://alpinelaboratories.com/pages/radian-2-support-get-started_s. The D750 is fabulous but the Sony is almost as good – much better for Live View – and accepts all lenses. Please have a look at them again. I’ve read so many good things about the D750 for night photography, which your review corroborated, and seen so many great images taken with it, but I have all Canon-mount lenses, which wouldn’t be compatible, so probably don’t want to go there. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Proud to be the #1 Camera-Brand Subreddit! Now, let’s dive into some of the software settings and capabilities of the Sony A7III as quick as we can. Compressed files showed more noise and magenta discoloration in the shadows. But a monster night shooter would be the A7SM3 if left at the larger pixels of 12mm not looking forward to Video stuff (people need to get a video camera look at all the attachments anyway leave the photo cameras alone)…. But when shooting aurora videos I found, to my surprise, I could “drag” the shutter speeds as slow as 1/4-second, fully 4 stops better than the Nikon’s slowest shutter speed of 1/60 second in Full HD, and 3 stops better than the Canon’s slowest movie shutter of 1/30 second. The most common way of doing this is with a DSLR or mirrorless camera and a telephoto lens that allows you to zoom in to capture the details of these bodies. The Sony would perform better in an ISO Invariancy “face-off” if its ISOs were kept above 640, to keep all the images within the Sony’s upper ISO range of its dual-gain sensor design, with two ranges (100 to 400, and 640 on up). It is about bigger pixels producing less noise in a photo as a whole which is probably a myth. Sony A7III | Sigma 14mm 1.8 Art | f/1.8 | ISO3200 | 20s | 10 image stack | ©Haitong Yu. Canon really needs to improve their sensors to keep in the game. The Canon is free of any such issue – stars are naturally colored whether LENR dark frames are applied or not. I updated the firmware on my a7III. The Sony shows a lot of green stars with or without LENR. Imagine the ability to do more with less in your travel bag in a dark place out in a remote place you hiked for hours to get to for your imagined thought capture of your favorite place with tools in your little magic box so light and small and not on a wagon in toll….. they turn off during exposures), lit buttons would be very handy at night. Or is this just a theory of how it should behave? I did test and describe control options for the Sony in the test report I wrote for a recent issue of Sky and Telescope. Again, here I show only the Sony and Nikon, the two “ISO invariant” cameras. What iso would you recommend for the a7iii if you could pick any iso (so not limited by individual situations)? Do the test and let me know. But this test re-emphasized my thoughts that Canon DSLRs remain the best for long-exposure deep-sky imaging where you can give images as much exposure time as they need, while the ISO invariant Sony and Nikons exceed at nightscape shooting where exposures are often limited and plagued by dark shadows and noise. An example is in a 4K video I shot on May 6, 2018 of an usual aurora known as “STEVE.”. The S/N ratio is determined by the individual pixels — they don’t know how big a sensor they belong to and won’t behave differently in a cropped sensor vs a large sensor. You’ll see how different the stars are rendered with all those programs. Maybe. I like its image stacking options, which can help alleviate the noise and artifacts in still images, but aren’t practical for time-lapses. Can switch between AF-S, AF-C, AF-A, DMF, or MF. To the eye, the Sony and Nikon look very similar for noise levels, just as in the moonlit scene. Heck, BY EOS won’t even work with my 6D MkII — I just tested it again in preparation for a workshop I’m doing in a couple of weeks. The effects of the algorithm are clearly visible in your test images when comparing 3.2 and 4 s exposures. At 24 fps videos are full-frame with no cropping. Very noticeable star trails so images really arent good for anything other than small posts like instagram. The Nikon seems to discolor stars only when LENR is applied. It’s all about the Focus Peaking, which I’ll get to in the camera settings below. Use the same lens as well. the 500 rule is pretty bad for today's cameras. When using a slow shutter speed with ND filter for waterfalls on a Sony mirrorless camera, like the Sony A7riii or A7iii, don’t forget these settings: Use a tripod; ND filter attached to lens, between a 6 stop and a 10 stop filter. [A6000 - 50mm f1.8] Quite happy with this shot. Image quality was just fine. I’m sorry, but I have to agree with John on this one: Your comparison of different exposure times *clearly* shows, that the filtering is still in effect and it wipes the smallest stars (up to 4 or 5 pixels area). At the Raw-files from dpreview.com shows that a7rIII much less noisy than the Canon 6D and Nikon D750. This is from a thin metal mask in front of the sensor. Go to dpreview.com for comparison tools to allow you to judge any cameras you want on standard test charts. Some show green stars, some red stars, some show stars with green hot pixels, some show stars with little color at all! I’ve used this new function and it works very well. [���]shanew21A7Riv / @shanewarephoto 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (0 children), Going to be very hard to get good astro at f4, [���]Memn0na7iii, a7s 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago* (0 children). The advantage of purely electronic viewing is that the image you are previewing matches the image you’ll capture, at least for short exposures. In your theory the image taken with it set to shoot full frame should be less noisy. That’s worth a check, too. LENR does the dark frame taking and subtraction for you. This is all with Raws developed with Adobe Camera Raw. I think in the last few years the difference in the performance of higher end sensors have become harder to distinguish. Eliminate all the variables — except one — you’re just varying the collecting area. Coma wise, is the Laowa as good wide open as the Roki SP is? first, the stars on your images are extended typically on 3 pixels, so they are not as dramatically reduced as stars extended on a single pixel. Happy shooting, John. Electronic Front Curtain Shutter The a7III offers 4K video and, at 24 frames-per-second, is full-frame. Try it. But I don’t know if it’s a significant enough improvement. As you surmised, the a7III is the first and only Sony mirrorless I’ve used. Nevertheless, for the demands of nightscape and deep-sky shooting and processing, I suggest shooting Uncompressed Raws. Instead, I concentrated on those points I felt of most concern to astrophotographers, such as: Noise I just read your evaluation of the Sony A7III in Sky & Telescope. The vignette is mostly correctable in Lightroom but it still appears slightly darker around the edges. Even with Canons that have a Bulb Timer for exposures >30s you can’t use it with the internal intervalometer. To me, the star eater effect on the Sony a7III is a non-issue. A Sony a7S II (8.5 microns) has lower noise than an a7III (6 microns) which has lower noise than an a7RIII (4.5 microns). Raw Therapee offers a choice of de-Bayering, or “de-mosaic,” routines, and each produces different looking stars, and none look great! Again, the differences are in images vastly underexposed. The small tree at the top of the image looked very different with the two cameras. I rate the Sony excellent for nightscape imaging and for real-time aurora videos. Set Color Space to AdobeRGB. The Canon 5D series also has this. So beware! It magnifies the Live View by 5.9x or 11.7x, allowing for precise manual focusing on a star. So you still need an external intervalometer for time-lapses with frames over 30s long. Thanks for the suggestions! But it is extreme pixel peeping. What little “star-eater” effect I saw might be mitigated by shooting on Continuous drive mode or by firing the shutter with an external timer. ( Log Out / The inset image at right in Photoshop shows the scene, the Milky Way above dark trees in my backyard! A great app I found with the A7S and A7RM2 was Digital Filter which is good for city lights below and dark sky above, you can capture two images in camera with different settings for the above and below and get a RAW combined in camera image to use in post instead of Photoshop blending, again just for thought. And both cameras performed much better than the ISO “variant” Canon in this test. The world usually does not behave as we expect and argue it should. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. If you have ever looked at the apps on Playmemories site (a selling point when I bought the A7S back in 2014 [no other camera offered and is ground breaking]). Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. [���]4armo 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children). This might be a contributing factor. If it did then the massive foot-wide cameras used at observatories would have no noise at all! At last, we have a mirrorless camera that not only doesn’t eat stars, it also does not eat batteries! This comparison will not show the real situation with the noise level. At F4, you should push the shutter speed to 20s. A nice in depth article that answers many questions for me. We shoot everything on manual. With LENR on you will be able to take another shot, and another, before the dark frame kicks in and locks up the camera. Surprise! Live View was absolutely superb, though the outstanding Bright Monitoring function is as well-hidden as Sony could possibly make it. Hi, it all depends on what you want to buy or already have for lenses. The downside is that when shooting is underway you get no reassuring indication anything is happening, except for a brief LED flash when an image is written to a card. But there are indeed differences between the various brands and Raw files from various models, because we know every camera has a different Raw format. I would invite you to further read my comments and images added in the Addendum. The Canon 5D MkIV is $1000 more than the Sony here in Canada and is 30 Mp not 24 like the others, so not comparable in price or spec. Really Canon? With the latest firmware, A7 III, A7R III and A9 all get Interval Meter built into the camera. The amount collected also fluctuates to a lesser or larger extent, depending on the quantum efficiency of the collector (pixel). For nightscapes I would never shoot at a lower ISO than necessary with hopes of boosting exposure later. These are from DPReview’s noise comparison test images. Rendered by PID 30836 on r2-app-0ac30b6d0efcd6480 at 2020-12-14 14:43:06.642542+00:00 running 85e58d4 country code: JP. The lower weight can be helpful for use on lightweight telescopes, on small motion control devices, and for simply keeping weight and bulk down when traveling. And isn’t that what you care about? Now I know why I haven’t seen you on my email feed in awhile! We met this little furball on our walk. The Sony’s buttons are not illuminated. Full resolution examples of the “Star Eater” issue are available for download here (.zip, 8.4MB).. Sensor Illumination Uniformity I find your articles very helpful. The first refers to the compression and resolution of the file itself and are found in Camera Settings 1 / Quality Image Size 1 (page 1/14). Adaptability to Many Lenses You’re saying the a7III will show less noise than the competitors when used under very low light conditions. It may be more serious on other Sony alphas. Do you know that for a fact from personal tests? 2. (what software subtracts such dark frames? You say “If you measure the noise of individual pixels, larger pixels will have less noise simply because they are larger and can gather more light in any given amount of time.”. But astrophotography, which often requires extreme contrast boosts, reveals non-uniform illumination of the sensor itself, regardless of the optics, originating from hardware elements in front of the sensor casting shadows onto the sensor. Most DSLRs do not offer this, but the Sony’s option of an electronic front curtain shutter and the additional Silent Shooting mode completely eliminates vibration, useful for some high-magnification shooting through telephotos and telescopes. Over the last year or so, firmware updates from Sony introduced a much-publicized penchant for Sony Alphas to “eat” stars even in Raw files, apparently due to an internal noise reduction or anti-aliasing routine users could not turn off. It could be my photos are not quite good enough to tell a difference but it seems to be mostly a non issue to me. Fair enough. The Sony would perform better for noise under dark sky conditions, at high ISOs, rather than the moonlit scene above. It was not supplied to me by Sony in return for an “influential” blog post. Most tests focus on its superb auto exposure and auto focus capabilities that rival much more costly cameras, including Sony’s own A7RIII and A9. — Alan. In well-exposed images, I saw little difference in image quality. What more do you want? No difference. I would like to receive information about it! However, once you get out there and break the ice, any initial confusion or intimidation will fade quickly and you’ll start getting impressive results in no time! I wanted to reach out to the community and see if anyone has great astrophotography settings they've used. The Sony A7III is a high-resolution full-frame mirrorless camera it can seriously compete with the best DSLRs for astrophotography and as an all-purpose camera. However, I’ve found these post-shoot darks rarely work well, as the dark frames are not at the same temperature as the light frames, and often add noise or dark holes. In fact, they have so much noise they are cooled with liquid nitrogen. The disadvantage is that full-time live view draws more power, with mirrorless cameras notorious for being battery hungry. The images take up so much computer storage space! Well, it seems a7iii can be used for astrophotography, then what about a7riii? Since night photography has become a bigger part of my hobby life, I’ve been considering this as a replacement for my aging a6000. That includes simple intervalometers like the Vello, the Syrp Genie Mini panning unit, and the Dynamic Perception and Rhino sliders, to name devices I use. I can’t see anyone being unhappy about the sharpness of the starfield and galaxy itself in the 4 minute galaxy shot compared to the Canon version, and Canon surely sets the standard. And of course BackyardEOS or Nikon won’t work with Sony’s. The lowest cost units just adapt the lens mechanically; the more costly units also transfer lens data and allow auto focusing with varying degrees of compatibility. Though noise Itself is uniform. Slightly bigger stars are turned into green blobs or get a green halo. I would not recommend the a7III for deep sky. If stars are colored and misshapen at the single pixel level that’s deBayering. I was using the wired Vello intervalometer. They do not perform differently when in a large sensor vs in a small sensor. You have ignited my fuse, thank you for that. Posted by 2 years ago. Hurray! With DSLRs it is the raised mirror which often casts a shadow, produced a dark vignetted band along the bottom of the frame. I also don’t really think I need the 42MP resolution I have with the a7RII (I thought I did, which is one reason I bought it), even though I do mostly landscapes and nightscapes. I tested a Sony a7III purchased locally. Go figure! I tell you this, since the price of the sony a7iii is much higher than that of the 6d mark ii, do you think the sony a7iii, would you continue to earn the 5d mark iv canon astrophotography? Yes, I know. Ie. In most shooting situations, I found using LENR provided the overriding positive benefit of reducing hot pixels. None have been tempting until the a7III came out. Only the latest Canons offer in-camera stacking to average noise, which is not the same as dark-frame subtraction. OK, let’s try that. in-camera dark frame subtraction) off and on. We shoot everything on manual. The latest iteration of the menu interface is much improved on the a7III. This movie tutorial covers the camera settings I use for capturing shallow depth of field portraits using an 85mm prime lens or Pro Zoom. It is much appreciated even in 2019 December. This is a clear indication that the spatial filtering algorithm still exists. Which camera in the set has the lowest noise? So even if you should only do a 12 second shot for no star trails with a 12mm f/4 for a big print you can increase the ISO or just leave at 800 and brighten in post. I trust you’ll find the review of value. As the images below show, there is a very slight one-pixel-level softening that kicks in at 4 seconds and longer but it did not eat or wipe out stars. Menu > Camera Settings 2 > AF System (Not available with native E-mount lenses) This is actually the most important new setting on Sony a7RII cameras. Well pro’s use tools and programs (apps) on a camera that get the end result they want/need without hauling valuable gear to a site to capture. Astronomy author and photographer Alan Dyer presents amazing sky sights. I shot nothing but Raws. This is wonderful for taking a set of noise-reduced deep-sky images for later stacking. It’s not the debayering which causes the color shift, as those stars are white in images with 3.2 s and become green at 4 s exposure time. The Canon 6D MkII has a fully functional touch screen which can be, quite literally, handy at night. You obviously put some time into your tests. These settings can be found in the Camera Menu Tab (1) on Page 2 & 14 respectively. Even a supposedly ISO invariant Camera like the Sony can show noise and discoloration in underexposed images boosted later in exposure. Take a full-frame camera and shoot a low-light, high-ISO image with it set to full-frame mode vs with it sent to take a cropped APS frame image. Both the Sony and Nikon use sensor and signal path designs that are “ISO invariant.” As a result, images shot underexposed at slower ISOs, then boosted in exposure later in processing look identical to properly exposed high-ISO images. Features One of the test sets shows just what you asked for – exposures of varying length below and above 4 seconds. Illuminated Buttons The settings are suitable for both the A7RIII and A9 cameras and include the following settings: Recommended shooting Mode and Aperture File Format and File Type Drive Mode, Focus Mode and […] Thanks for the suggestion. when i saw someone reporting an article that star eater was gone, i immediatly read your article. Taking a dark frame with LENR did not eliminate this, and it should, demonstrating again that for whatever reason in the a7III LENR is not as effective as it should be. For astrophotography, I carry the Sony 16-35mm f/2.8 G Master, Sony 12-24mm f/4 G, the Zeiss Batis 18mm f/2.8, and now, the low light monster Sony 24mm f/1.4 G Master. Feb 14, 2018 at 03:24 AM: WestTexas Sky Jeff — Thanks for your comments and interest. But the A7III (as well as the A7RII, A7SII, A7RIII and A9) is still “eating stars”. ( Log Out / Almost any camera will behave well in this comparison. The compact a7III body weighs a measured 750 grams, vs. 900 grams each for the Nikon D750 and Canon 6D MkII. Even if super dark capture knowing post will be great. While a built-in intervalometer is not essential, I find I often do use the Canon and Nikon in-camera intervalometers for simple shoots. TL;DR Conclusions. I’ve noticed you’ve used the Rokinon 14mm SP on the a7iii in your noise test. As photographers age, this becomes a more essential feature! i.e. That was a bit surprising. The dark frame the camera was taking and subtracting was actually adding some noise, perhaps due to a temperature difference. Plus there are an increasing number of lenses from third parties offered with native Sony E-mounts. 18Mm @ f/2.8, 25s, ISO 1600 bad for today 's cameras added. Been tempting until the a7III lacks any internal intervalometer, the incident “ stream ” is. 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